Live Conference Coverage @Medcitynews Converge 2018 Philadelphia:Liquid Biopsy and Gene Testing vs Reimbursement Hurdles
Reporter: Stephen J. Williams, PhD
9:25- 10:15 Liquid Biopsy and Gene Testing vs. Reimbursement Hurdles
Genetic testing, whether broad-scale or single gene-testing, is being ordered by an increasing number of oncologists, but in many cases, patients are left to pay for these expensive tests themselves. How can this dynamic be shifted? What can be learned from the success stories?
Moderator: Shoshannah Roth, Assistant Director of Health Technology Assessment and Information Services , ECRI Institute @Ecri_Institute
Speakers:
Rob Dumanois, Manager – reimbursement strategy, Thermo Fisher Scientific
Eugean Jiwanmall, Senior Research Analyst for Medical Policy & Technology Evaluation , Independence Blue Cross @IBX
Michael Nall, President and Chief Executive Officer, Biocept
Michael: Wide range of liquid biopsy services out there. There are screening companies however they are young and need lots of data to develop pan diagnostic test. Most of liquid biopsy is more for predictive analysis… especially therapeutic monitoring. Sometimes solid biopsies are impossible , limited, or not always reliable due to metastasis or tough to biopsy tissues like lung.
Eugean: Circulating tumor cells and ctDNA is the only FDA approved liquid biopsies. However you choose then to evaluate the liquid biopsy, PCR NGS, FISH etc, helps determines what the reimbursement options are available.
Rob: Adoption of reimbursement for liquid biopsy is moving faster in Europe than the US. It is possible in US that there may be changes to the payment in one to two years though.
Michael: China is adopting liquid biopsy rapidly. Patients are demanding this in China.
Reimbursement
Eugean: For IBX to make better decisions we need more clinical trials to correlate with treatment outcome. Most of the major cancer networks, like NCCN, ASCO, CAP, just have recommendations and not approved guidelines at this point. From his perspective with lung cancer NCCN just makes a suggestion with EGFR mutations however only the companion diagnostic is approved by FDA.
Michael: Fine needle biopsies are usually needed by the pathologist anyway before they go to liquid biopsy as need to know the underlying mutations in the original tumor, it just is how it is done in most cancer centers.
Eugean: Whatever the established way of doing things, you have to outperform the clinical results of the old method for adoption of a newer method.
Reimbursement issues have driven a need for more research into clinical validity and utility of predictive and therapeutic markers with regard to liquid biopsies. However although many academic centers try to partner with Biocept Biocept has a limit of funds and must concentrate only on a few trials. The different payers use different evidence based methods to evaluate liquid biopsy markers. ECRI also has a database for LB markers using an evidence based criteria. IBX does sees consistency among payers as far as decision and policy.
NGS in liquid biopsy
Rob: There is a path to coverage, especially through the FDA. If you have a FDA cleared NGS test, it will be covered. These are long and difficult paths to reimbursement for NGS but it is feasible. Medicare line of IBX covers this testing, however on the commercial side they can’t cover this. @IBX: for colon only kras or nras has clinical utility and only a handful of other cancer related genes for other cancers. For a companion diagnostic built into that Dx do the other markers in the panel cost too much?
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